and usually, they reach out -- well, they're not reaching out. but i think it becomes too much of a burden. and a lot of these start out as small white lies that just sort of snowball into something huge. and like in manti's situation the only way to stop it is to kind of commit like facebook suicide, you know, and kill your character. and before you get to that point, i mean, you're living with a lie. in my brother's case the woman who was doing this to him was spending the majority of her day, hours and hours and hours, for months living a lie. you know, and building the characters and talking on the phone and creating profiles and stealing pictures. it's exhausting. >> yeah, it is. i mean, anyway, as i said, i don't get it. so you guys are investigating manti te'o. what are you learning? i mean, do you believe his story, that he really didn't know? >> yeah. i do believe him wholeheartedly.